新书推介:《语义网技术体系》
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    皮皮     13:04:32   
    大家好    
       
    皮皮     13:05:05   
    刚加入进来,学习语义web刚一年多,希望大家多多指教    
       
    皮皮     13:05:26   
    目前主要研究本体的不一致处理    
       
    官才     13:08:54   
    :)    
       
    胖波     14:41:41   
    问个问题   
       
    胖波     14:42:42   
    有没有OWL解析的perl库啊?   
       
    野猪     16:20:59   
    貌似没吧..    
       
    汤包     17:32:34   
    JENA的推理子系统或者RACER是否支持对中文本体的推理啊?    
       
    Anning     17:39:06   
    支持    
       
    沉香竹     19:35:10   
    HELP: 我现在可以通过jena读取一个owl文件,并写入mysql,但是怎么往mysql里面添加实例了? Thanks^_^   
       
    沉香竹     19:56:14   
    刚在bbs上看到iamwym说“mysql存ontology本来就是个非主流的实现方法”,为什么说mysql存ontology是个非主流的方法了?   
       
    野猪     20:02:21   
    大多还是就rdf直接存了..    
       
    藏牦犇     20:02:57   
    swrl vs. mysql    
       
    野猪     20:03:16   
    跟那个没关系吧??     
       
    沉香竹     20:04:36   
    如果说本体的实例很多的话,用rdf存储会不会不方便了?(我刚刚接触这个,所以有的时候可能问的问题很弱智,见谅)   
       
    Anning     20:06:24   
    为什么不考虑sesame    
       
    Anning     20:06:32   
    vituoso    
       
    Anning     20:06:51   
    这些RDF repository呢    
       
    野猪     20:06:59   
    sesame不错    
       
    野猪     20:07:03   
    vituoso没了解过    
       
    Anning     20:07:07   
    sorry     
       
    Anning     20:07:10   
    virtuoso    
       
    沉香竹     20:07:13   
    你上面说的这两个单词都没接触过,sesame,vituoso   
       
    Anning     20:07:31   
    virtuoso支持非常好的sparql end-point    
       
    野猪     20:07:55   
    sesame是个 rdf DB    
       
    Anning     20:07:56   
    个人觉得virtuoso优于sesame     
       
    沉香竹     20:08:10   
    它们都是数据库?   
       
    Anning     20:08:23   
    目前virtuoso支持多图搜索    
       
    野猪     20:08:24   
    virtuoso新的? 一直不知道诶    
       
    scf     20:09:05   
    virtuoso是什么东东?

      
      
    野猪    20:09:06  
    我去了解下   
      
    野猪    20:09:11  
    也是个DB   
      
    野猪    20:09:19  
    貌似搜索triple相当了得   
      
    scf    20:10:08  
    弱弱的问下:语义和WebService还能联系起来?   
      
       
    Anning    20:10:30  
    这是个人写的一些总结,   
      
    Anning    20:10:31  
    View: Full | Compact     * My Notes     * Drafts A gentle touch to Torino Share Saturday, September 6, 2008 at 7:25pm | Edit Note | Delete It was the third time to Italy. If Roma is said to be a history-established ruins, if Venice is said to be a love-meeting paradise, if Florence is said to be a culture-initiating centre, if Milan is said to be a fashion-creating stage, I would like to say that Torino is a spice-stimulating garden. Torino is surrounded by a crystal-clear Po river elegant hills , not too crowded streets are along with trees on the sides, old Rome-style buildings are still telling you those ancient stories. You still can feel its gloriousness as the first capit  
      
    Anning    20:10:32  
    al of Italy. The best surprise should be the discovery the shop of Juventus. I walked into the shop in a rush to look up some nice presents for my friends, one pop fan of Junventus. esp, Del Piero. The pity was that I didn't find Portone del Diavolo, where people can be bewitched. I'm still doubt the truth......... I walked a little bit in that quiet morning, took a drink in a bar. and though about the restaurant where I went twice for dinner. when I needed some help, a voice came to me:"I'm here". yes, surrounded by gorgeous Italian, although I know nothing, this voice touched me with a warming feeling. Torino, a gentle kiss......... Add a comment Life is a curve, for the ups  
      
    Anning    20:10:40  
    仅供参考   
      
    Anning    20:10:40  
    and downs Share Friday, August 1, 2008 at 1:16pm | Edit Note | Delete Most people just follow this curve, as their fate. Actually, it’s not a fate; the decision you make affects your rest of life. So where do you want for this curve. Take a moment to stop, to think, to evaluate. Maybe you can start a new upped curve. You will find yourself in an amazing and colorful curve tomorrow. I would like to change my life curve, maybe there is a fate or destiny for me, but I prefer to make it more challenging, valuable and controllable Add a comment Updated about 3 months ago A leaf Share Friday, July 4, 2008 at 11:54am | Edit Note | Delete loneliness is a sole carnival for a person, Carni  
      
    Anning    20:10:41  
    val is a loneliness for a group of people, Love, is a company in original, But, I begin to forget how I was ever accompanied by someone. I eat, travel, wander alone, I read, write alone as well as talk with myself. Where is my heart floating, I don't know even by myself, I think I'm not only losing you. Leaf is a pair of wing but no flying; Wing is a leaf falling to the sky. Add a comment Updated about 4 months ago God bless! Share Monday, May 19, 2008 at 4:39pm | Edit Note | Delete To all the victims in the earthquake are in peace. I'm Chinese, I'm proud of my country. This is a world of love bright the way to the Heaven for all victims Add a comment I know motherland is my  
      
    Anning    20:10:42  
    belief Share Friday, May 16, 2008 at 10:40am | Edit Note | Delete People can't live without a belief, just at this moment, I know that my belief is my motherland China. Human being is always tiny and powerless when facing the cruel disasters from the nature. A big earthquake happened 12. May, since these days every one has been moving : a great mother lost her own life for save her little baby and left a message to her baby: my dear, if you are still alive, please remember I love you forever. Tears can't help pouring out. As long as our have the firmly belief, we can stick to everything. a fortunate baby saved by her great mother a young girl at 20 years old devoted her youth   
      
    Anning    20:10:44  
    s were out of controlled in some sense, we still try our best to save the result . Whole county extremely unify together to pull through。 Chinese nation is always strong in its long history. We don't have extravagant hopes for other people help us. we just need people out of China a respect to us. China, never give up. I'm always with you. Add a comment To be strong Share Thursday, May 8, 2008 at 3:48pm | Edit Note | Delete Living in Europe is unforgeable experience in my life. What I need to learn is to be strong. Everyone is an island, only continuous efforts to become part of the mainland. Add a comment Journey Share Wednesday, May 7, 2008 at 10:24am | Edit Note | Delete  
      
    Anning    20:10:44  
    Someone said that life is like a journey, what's the difference is that any journey is staged, while like is a one-way and death without return travel. But life is optional like the destination of a journey, as long as you like, as long as you stick to, as long as you understand life by your heart, as long as you taste life by your heart. The destination is not important, the point it that the to appreciate the the scenery along the way and enjoy various funs. I'm just a laity and choose Prague as my first stop in my journey neither because of Kafka nor Milan Kundera, I just want to see old artists on Charlie Bridge performing skeleton puppet playing piano. Prague, I'm close   
      
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    to you!!!!! Add a comment The first day of May Share Thursday, May 1, 2008 at 9:00pm | Edit Note | Delete Today is a wedding of one of my friends, but I couldn't be there to witness such an beautiful and important moment in his life. I always feel sorry to miss some meanful moments since once you miss, it won't return. Only if the more you share in common, the more you experience together, you can complete understand each other deeply. I bless him sincerely. Marriage is a new phase in our life. More responsibility we will have, it begins to a world with another person. Some one said: Marriage is a siege, one living inside wants to get out, while one outside wants to get into. ev  
      
    Anning    20:10:45  
    erything has two hands. Marriage to some sense melts emotion into relationship along with the time going by. maybe it's easy to neglect the true love in deep heart, which is the backend to a family, to a eternal marriage. Everyday should be cherished and memorized..... Add a comment RDF Data Models Share Wednesday, April 30, 2008 at 5:08pm | Edit Note | Delete As a Semantic Web developer, sometime we are in a nasty mess. Usually we have several hard choice to make: ---Jena Model, --- JenaSesameModel ---YARS(http://sw.deri.org/2004/06/yars/) ---Jena2Sesame(http://rossel.free.fr/projects/jenaSesame/), --- Virtuoso (http://virtuoso.openlinksw.com/wiki/main/) etc. Jena Model is p  
      
    Anning    20:10:46  
    robably the most common one, which supports both memory models and database models. The notable    
      
    Anning    20:10:54  
    还是根据个人的实际应用来选择RDF storage   
      
    野猪    20:11:03  
    语义 WS必然能联呀.. owl-s wsmo什么的已经很成熟了   

      
    scf    20:11:13  
    噢噢   
      
    scf    20:11:29  
    我还能够自己写owl-s   
      
    scf    20:11:31  
    ??   
      
    Anning    20:11:38  
    sorry 把上一篇日志都贴上了,呵呵   
      
    野猪    20:11:46  
    贴来看看   
      
    野猪    20:12:20  
    owl-s 你去w3c看下规范吧..   
      
    Anning    20:12:26  
    As a Semantic Web developer, sometime we are in a nasty mess. Usually we have several hard choice to make: ---Jena Model, --- JenaSesameModel ---YARS(http://sw.deri.org/2004/06/yars/) ---Jena2Sesame(http://rossel.free.fr/projects/jenaSesame/), --- Virtuoso (http://virtuoso.openlinksw.com/wiki/main/) etc. Jena Model is probably the most common one, which supports both memory models and database models. The notable problem with Jena Model is the memory problems. JenaSesameModel was developed by 2005, I tried to create a Jena Sesame Model , unfortunately, it is now verified that it is not compatible with Sesame 2.x. The error caused by torg.openrdf.sesame.Sesame.getService(). Jena2Se  
      
    Anning    20:12:27  
    same maybe a suitable option to connect Sesame Repository and it supports as it said that ---Jena OWL API on top of Sesame --- Pellet support on top of Jena on top of Sesame --- fast queries (in SPARQL or SeRQL) Virtuoso is very excellent Triple Store, in many cases, it outperforms than Sesame. Well, it's better to say that it depends on the datasets. There is a benchmark to evaluate the performance with these RDF Stores http://www4.wiwiss.fu-berlin.de/benchmarks-200801/   
      
    Anning    20:12:37  
    这是我的一篇日志   
      
    scf    20:12:48  
    好   
      
    沉香竹    20:14:13  
    好,谢谢  
      
    野猪    20:14:31  
    那么早就做语义了..   
      
    Anning    20:14:48  
    不过virtuoso尽管很完美了   
      
    Anning    20:14:56  
    但是还是不够智能   
      
    scf    20:17:14  
    我想问。我自己能不能够部署语义Web服务?   
      
    野猪    20:18:00  
    当然可以..jena会写就自己去部署呗  不过owl-s什么的已经提供很好的框架了..   
      
    scf    20:19:28  
    简单的说,我自己写个程序,用axis2发布,生成WSDL文档,那么怎么和语义联系起来呢?   
      
    scf    20:19:37  
    谢谢   
      
    野猪    20:21:19  
    jena不就是对rdf的操作么? 你在jena实现就好.. 如果你是说语义web服务的自动发现 组合那些又是一回事了   
      
    scf    20:22:59  
    我的最终目的是  在提供的几个Web服务中 通过语义进一步协调他们之间的工作。我不知道怎么将语义加上去?   
      
    scf    20:24:06  
    我是想做 规范数据 ,想通过语义来消除歧义,并提高融和度。   
      
    野猪    20:24:44  
    那就是语义web服务的自动发现与组合了.   
      
    野猪    20:24:51  
    你这个是两个概念我觉得   
      
    scf    20:25:33  
    呵呵,我是想用语义的概念,但是不想牵涉到OWL-S    
      
    野猪    20:27:37  
    我对 服务组合 发现 理解得很差..  消歧

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    scf    20:28:49  
    还有就是写服务的查找的。我有点不明白   
      
    野猪    20:30:01  
    等牛人来解答吧~~   
      
    scf    20:30:18  
    唉,没有方向啊,愁。。。    
      
    野猪    20:30:50  
    我还觉得一本一本啃好..  不要那么快就陷入细节..   
      
    胖波    20:30:50  
    你做的是发现还是查找?   
      
    scf    20:32:17  
    [自定义表情]   
      


    胖波    20:32:56  
    图太大了,看不全啊   
      
    scf    20:34:13  
    所谓的语义Web服务(Semantic Web Service, 简称SWS) 就是具有良好语义的Web服务,其以计算机能处理的方式描述自身的功能信息以及与其他服务的交互信息等语义Web服务发现的主要作用是利用丰富的语义支撑在动态和异质的网络环境中实现半自动/自动化的服务发现,服务合成   
      
    scf    20:34:52  
    呵呵,看来语义Web服务确实很牛啊   
      
    胖波    20:35:09  
    这只是个笼统的说法   
      
    (_夏oО風﹎    20:35:15  
    吹得很牛啊   
      
    scf    20:35:53  
    我如果想用WebService做应用的话,你们告诉我,我用的着开发语义Web服务吗?   
      
    胖波    20:36:38  
    不用   
      
    scf    20:38:36  
    我又想用点新鲜的技术-像本体,语义之类的,用来写文章,你看我该从哪下手了?   
      
    王立才    20:39:31  
    请问有人在做推荐系统的研究吗?    

    胖波    20:40:15  
    为了写论文的话,你就编吧   
      
    scf    20:40:31  
    哈哈   
      

    野猪    20:40:40  
    国内水一篇 挺容易的   
      
    scf    20:41:17  
    看来大家都挺明白啊,呵呵   
      
    Anning    20:42:05  
    关于推荐系统哪方面的研究?   
      
    王立才    20:45:27  
    请问有人结合语义web做推荐系统的研究吗?   
      
    王立才    20:45:32  
    用户行为方面的?   
      
    胖波    20:46:47  
    你直接说问题啦   
      
    王立才    20:47:15  
    刚开始做,不知道有哪些资料阅读   
      
    王立才    20:47:22  
    会议、论文什么的。。   
      
    王立才    20:48:21  
    ??   
      
    scf    20:48:23  
    本体谁还有研究?   
      
    胖波    20:48:25  
    这个我没高过   
      
    王立才    20:48:35  
    好的。谢谢。   
      
    胖波    20:50:19  
    这个属于e-learning吧?   
      
    scf    20:54:41  
    我想了下,看来我只能在用户层来考虑应用本体和语义技术了,这样做的目的我自己也还能够接受,然后就是考虑在WebService上找一个研究的突破口,QoS不知道怎么样?   
      
    胖波    20:55:31  
    说真的,做QoS的就不用贴着科研的标签了,直接编就好   
      
    scf    20:55:56  
    哈哈,你说的挺实在   
      
    胖波    20:56:27  
    呵呵   
      
    scf    21:00:25  
    你听我说,我觉得还是有研究的,现在提到Web服务的QoS都是WSDL中描述的QoS,现在假如我发现有两个地方都可以调用Web服务,那我该用哪一个呢?这是一个策略的问题,如果只看它自己的描述是不是不够?我们能不能自己定义一项标准,比如响应时间,来实际测它一测,然后再选呢?   
      
    胖波    21:02:44  
    你说的这种都论文发了无数了   
      
    scf    21:03:00  
    呵呵。确实,我刚才看了。唉,落后阿   
      
    胖波    21:04:05  
    是啊,可怕   
      
    scf    21:04:24  
    我就不信了!!   
      
    scf    21:04:59  
    我就不信找不到一个能着手的!!   
      
    胖波    21:05:26  
    呃   
      
    scf    21:05:45  
    是不是大家都在编?   
      
    胖波    21:06:21  
    国内的论文我觉得七分编,三分做把   
      
    scf    21:15:57  
    我还是看看QoS吧,我想我如果加上一定的背景,一定的应用限制,还是可以忽悠一下的。而且我觉得确实有点用。   
      
    scf    21:16:56  
    语义WebService Byebye了,我实在是觉得有点虚。虚的东西我自己都说服不了自己去做。  

    胖波    21:17:18  
    这就是科研   
      
    scf    21:18:13  
    你告诉我,现在intenet上提供的WebService很多吗?   
      
    胖波    21:18:35  
    不少    
      
    scf    21:18:46  
    真的?    
      
    scf    21:19:15  
    还能给我举个例子?我咋没找到了   
      
    胖波    21:19:34  
    你可以想个办法得到


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